April 10, 2008...6:26 pm

incompleters

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there is an ER physician in the great pacific northwest i am in no hurry to meet. from his blog, he seems a decent enough guy. his political heart, for one, is in the right place. and he writes nicely. i have a soft spot for bloggers who write nicely. it gets me every time.

but i read a post he wrote a few weeks ago and it made me terribly sad and disturbed. according to this man, i am an incompleter. incompleters are people who commit suicidal gestures without really meaning to die. this is a difficult post for me to write, because such things should not need to be explained. the ER physician who wrote the post about incompleters (actually, the post is about completers, while incompleters function as a negative, puny contrast) has no sympathy whatsoever for imcompleters. this is how he describes us:

These patients are often a huge pain in the ass. They are usually intoxicated, often combative and agitated, may require extensive workups to ensure that no actual life threats exist, and wind up spending hours and hours in the ER, weeping and wailing, puking charcoal all over and annoying staff with their dramatic and manipulative behavior. Occasionally a non-serious gesture winds up being more dangerous than the patient intended. (”You mean tylenol is dangerous?”) Many a time an irritated nurse has approached me and grimly suggested that we publish an educational flier titled “Suicide: getting it right the first time.”

If this makes it sound like we don’t take suicide attempts awfully seriously, then you’re right. Mostly it’s due to the preponderance of minor suicidal gestures over real attempts. Don’t think we’re not professional about it — we know how to rule out the serious threats and make sure that a safe disposition is accomplished. But we are not overly impressed with the low-level stuff we usually see.

i know that when i end up in the ER after having overdosed or cut my wrists i am a huge pain in the ass. this has been made as clear to me as the light of day on a bright coastal morning. i was told in no uncertain terms that i had to be quiet because there were very sick people in other beds. i know i am not welcome and i know i get no sympathy. on a miraculous occasion i have found a nurse who was sweetness personified. when, clumsily (people who are intoxicated tend to be clumsy), i upset my bedpan, i was so grateful for her kindness that i cleaned it up myself, stealthily, without bothering anybody. when she realized what i had done she gave me a great big smile and said, “honey, this is what i’m here for.” i thought, when i get out of here i’ll send her flowers. but i never did. i’m sure she went home with a light and full heart, though.

i have always drunk my charcoal without making a fuss, even though charcoal is nasty. when i had my stomach pumped i took that, too, without complaint. but there are two occasions i remember vividly in which, alas, i did weep and wail. you see, i was absolutely desperate. maybe the ER physician who wrote that post doesn’t fully realize that both completers and incompleters come from a place of terrible pain. yet, his sympathy goes only to the completers:

When a would-be completer comes into the ER, it changes the whole tone of the evening. A pall settles over the department; the place is unusually quiet and staff uncommonly grave. This guy really meant it. It’s a weird feeling.

Like the guy I saw the other day. A classic completer: middle-aged male, rather heavy drinker, recently lost his job and losing his marriage. His wife came home to find him in the garage with the engine running, unconscious, with an empty vodka bottle and pill bottles in his lap. Only she came home earlier than he expected.

This was an uncommon case with a reasonably happy result; many serious-but-unsuccessful suicide attempts wind up causing devastating consequences, especially when the method is violent: handgun, hanging, and certain poisonings can cause permanent brain damage, spinal cord injuries, or other organ failures. It’s all very sad. I probably feel more empathy for these folks and their families than I do for almost any other patient. How terrible must their perceived suffering have been to drive them to actually pull that trigger?

I am glad we don’t see them too often, because it’s a hard thing to stare in the face:
This guy really meant it.

i am not sure why terrible suffering should be the prerogative of the completer. i can well imagine a case in which two people with an equal amount of devastating pain might choose to do a “complete” suicide attempt or simply, as this man calls it, a “gesture.”

what is it that keeps us, the incompleters, from calling it a day? maybe that there are others, too many others, too many loved others, whose life would be all but over if we were completers instead of incompleters. maybe that we see, in some bleeding corner of our bleeding hearts, a glimmer of hope, something resembling a future. maybe that there’s enough in life to keep us going — jobs to go to, children to raise, old parents to take care of.

the subtext of the ER doctor’s post is that the incompleters are the women and the completers are the men. handgun, hanging: we don’t do that. we down a bottles of pills or hack in the inside of our wrists. we weep and wail. sometimes we puke charcoal.

but the pain, mr. ER doctor, is real, and terrible, and devastating.

perhaps people have it all backwards. instead of celebrating our will to live, our determination to stick around in spite of the horrendous pain that compels us to attack and mangle our bodies, they scorn us as silly, pusillanimous, manipulative incompleters (if i never again see the word “manipulative” referring to a woman it will still be too fucking late). the completers, may god bless each and every one of them and grant them a peaceful and joyful afterlife, stare life in the face and decide they are done with it, sorry guys, it’s too much. it is a step i can barely fathom. but the incompleters, the incompleters go through the humiliation of the ER and the psych unit, sweep up the dirt and the pieces, put themselves together, and resume the awful job of living. if i hadn’t done it, i couldn’t fathom the courage of such a choice either.

(if you want to give a piece of your mind to the ER doc, do so at his site. i will delete abusive comments left here)

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  • This reminds me (so many of my comments start that way) of an incident on the dulcimer list. We were talking about difficult students. Someone cracked a joke about borderlines. I mentioned that it’s a serious diagnosis and should be treated as carefully as “retarded” or other such words. The two people who responded continued to justify their usage — borderlines are manipulative and anti-social and these people would rather spend their dulcimer teaching time with people who really want to learn.

    Yikes.

    Or a girl in college who blogged about how her first attempt with therapy, through her college, is a no-go. Despite her being teary in her sessions, talking about a huge amount of repressed anger she can’t get to, the counselor basically said she’s fine.

    Is it any wonder we have to make such fusses, cause such scenes, to get taken seriously? People say, “just say what you want” or whatever, “don’t make a scene,” but it’s not until we escalate to the scene that they pay attention.

    In “The Revolt of Mother,” after she moves into the new barn (built instead of the long-promised house) while he’s gone, he seems genuinely surprised, and says “I didn’t know that’s what you wanted.” Despite her having said so, so many times.

    Ugh.

    Suicidal gestures, or gestures of any other kind — these, too, are words, an effort to overcome the silence.

  • first of all, i feel entirely proud of myself that i have actually READ “the revolt of mother,” a fabulous protofeminist 1890 story by mary wilkins freeman that everyone should check out post haste.

    secondly, let me tell you, marcy, from the bottom of my heart, that I LOVE YOU.

  • I’m not sure if this comment is even appropriate… but what the hell, you can delete it if it grates or I’ve missed the point entirely.

    We’d be a completed suicide, ages hence, but for the inconvenient fact of our multiplicity. Someone - Rome - would put together an excellent plan, put it in motion, and at the first weakness or loss of control, another would slip out and un-do it.

    And THEN we’d get docs who not only thought all the horrid stuff this ER doc thinks about “incompleters” - manipulative female wasting my time - we’d get equally bad treatment for “claiming” to be Multiple.

    All of which was just so very helpful for the suicidal one(s).

    OTOH, I think she sometimes did overdose not to die, but to quiet the need to destroy herself down again for awhile, knowing Rosemarie would probably save all our lives. It was about us, nothing to do with asking for help from a mental health system that’s shown time and again they can’t and won’t help. The general perception, though, again, was manipulation.

    It made me so angry. It still does.

    Sad, so sad, what being a doctor for very long seems to do to people’s sense of compassion.

  • my very last desire is to scare off thoughtful comment such as yours, rose.

    how terribly tragic. i guess, at the end, rome managed to make herself gone. i don’t know the details of her departure, but i do know that you all miss her terribly.

    what makes me sad the most is that one day i (and others) might die simply because i’ll (they’ll) be too scared to go to the ER. i guess then we’ll be completers… what terrible irony.

    god bless rosemarie for keeping you all around.

  • Thank you for the link. I had to comment on his post, though I didn’t allow myself to show a fraction of the anger it made me feel.

  • as someone who doesn’t make gestures, it’s either I’m going for dead or I’m not going to do anything at all, (though since I have yet to suceed does that make me an ‘incompleter’ seeing how I haven’t yet wound up completely or partially dead? Is that even possible- being partially dead?) I can honestly say I don’t really ‘get’ the gestures, though I can understand the thought that it might draw needed attention to one’s grave situation and need for assistance, even though from what I have seen it rarely happens as so many people who can give that assistance seem to have the same mentality of that ER doc.

    People in pain are people in pain, and everyone shows it differently. Classifying someone as a ‘completer’ or ‘imcompleter’ doesn’t change that the person is/was in pain and most likely feeling like there was no other option.

  • I have made gestures, but mine are external, not acted against my body — things like turning pictures around or hiding them, or destroying sentimental objects. I understand the urge / need to act certain things out in some way. Sometimes words are insufficient.

  • Oh, and I would guess suicidal gestures are not usually intended as attention-getters, as much as just simply the need to act out the feelings in some way, although another inner part safely keeps it from going all the way.

  • hey marcy, i composed my reply to katrin as you were writing yours! you say exactly the same things i did, except more succinctly, effectively, and to the point. :-)

  • What an inconsiderate prick that doctor is. Seriously….

    I’d say to him: better a pain in the ass and ALIVE, than quiet and DEAD, for family to mourn and deal with a loss for the rest of their lives. That doctor was only thinking about his own needs, obviously……

    this crap makes me so mad……

    Ivan and The Integral of athenivanidx

  • damn fucking right, ivan & co.!

  • I am late to join, I just found this post/thread.
    I don’t think there is a difference between the two supposed catogories. People do not successfully kill themselves due to poor research I believe ( along with the fate-psychic-luck factor). When another website posted methods of suicide and their success to failure rate, I was greatly disturbed (as I imagine it increasing the likelyhood of a suicide being successfully compleated).
    IMO For the supposed incompleaters, they were picking suicide for freedom, to see if they had the freedom to kill themselves. After discovering they do have the freedom, a person may then chose to live, they then call for help. To be punished for this realization is cruel.
    When you realize your suicide is not going to be successfull but you don’t want to lose a limb or become disabled and live with this disability, so have to try get fixed at the ER is the worst.

  • http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/health/20080508-1331-doctorsuicides.html
    Medical know-how raises suicide risk for doctors

    By LINDSEY TANNER, AP Medical WriterThu May 8, 7:27 PM ET

    There’s a grim, rarely talked-about twist to all that medical know-how doctors learn to save lives: It makes them especially good at ending their own. An estimated 300 to 400 U.S. doctors kill themselves each year — a suicide rate thought to be higher than in the general population, although exact figures are hard to come by.

    Some doctors believe the stigma of mental illness is magnified in a profession that prides itself on stoicism and bravado. Many fear admitting psychiatric problems could be fatal to their careers, so they suffer in silence.

    And when the pain is too much, doctors have easy access to prescription drugs and a precise knowledge of both how the body works and the amount of a drug needed for an overdose to stop breathing and halt the heart.

    “All physicians have access to neat, clean ways to commit suicide,” said Dr. Robert Lehmberg, a Little Rock, Ark., surgeon who has battled depression and long considered suicide “an exit strategy if absolutely necessary.”

    MORE

  • i have had numerous horrible experiences in the ERs over the years. believe me…i really didn’t want to wake up there either. but their cruel words went to the sticking place and echoed in an already angst ridden mind. this anger that the medical community and even mental health community has regarding suicide is damning to a suicidal person. in an ER, they only see you that night and they have NO information about what brought you there (do they care or assume). the suicide itself is only a small part of a much larger picture. and granted i know of people who threaten and gesture suicide as a manipulation and as a means of getting attention. it is those people who’ve given the rest of us a bad rap. they do not mean business. it’s non the less serious as even manipulative gestures can result in death. but all the more reason to treat anyone who is suicidal with compassion and concern. i know suicide is scary to face for all involved parties and i know there is a concern that giving too much attention to a suicide attempt may reinforce the attention seeking aspect for some patients…but that is not true for all of us.

    perhaps if people had been more willing to address my suicides (they were not attempts…parts of me died each time) as a serious issue i might have been able to come back…i am still not well in that area of my life. it is this overriding anger and repulsion that never allows for the help and healing. i don’t feel suicidal now but i have to admit that i always romance the thought. i hold it private to me because i’m all to aware of the cold and stony hearts that turn on you when people know. i stay away from people sometimes just because of the “me and them” in this whole area…it does drive much of my life all the time. it never goes away. it’s like a homesickness of sorts. and while i do deal with life problems often in very healthy ways and i live life with seemingly more joy than some…it’s always there. i do treasure life and maybe i value the good times so much more because i know that they are gifts i shouldn’t be experiencing. i don’t wallow in self pity…i’m not a glum, depressive, brooding or self-absorbed person as many would identify a suicidal person to be. having a second chance is something i am grateful for. but i wish i didn’t feel such an outsider as this ER doctor would wish us to feel.

    the pain is real. the pain is often a life long experience and there are suicides that aren’t for attention or solving a temporary problem. maybe it’s simply wanting put an end to having to try just to damn hard to live. and docs like this…they don’t help those who deal with sucidality as a lifelong issue. reading and hearing things like this article are sad. but i’m glad you’re posting this and i’m glad people are seeing and discussing this prevailing attitude because it is deadly.
    thank you for the post.

  • [...] May 19, 2008 by missisyphus i guess in light of a recent suicide in my community i’m looking at an issue near to my heart and life. suicide.  in the ”against medical advice” blogg the author shared an all to common experience of people who’ve woken up in the ER after an incompleted suicide, http://agmedad.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/incompleters/#comment-6509 [...]

  • thank you, missisyphus, for your moving and eloquent comment. i’m happy you felt comfortable enough to share your experience here. as you say, it’s all too easy to feel terribly isolated when suicide is part of one’s past (and one’s present, too, always, always). i agree with you, harsh treatment in the ER greatly exacerbates the pain that leads to these desperate gestures. kindness and respect would make all the difference in the world. sometimes one gets it, but all too rarely.

    i, too, feel more cheerful than most of the people i know even as i carry this thought, the possibility of my extinction, in my heart and mind at all time. we have this in common!

    i do not believe, though, that people who try to get reactions through self-hurting gestures are simply manipulative. there’s so much more to that. so much history, so much complexity, so much life. clearly, hurting oneself does not get the kind of reaction one wants. it doesn’t make people love you more or better. why do people continue doing it, then? why can’t they learn? because they’re hurt somewhere deeply. they/we/all of us, all those who suffer, however unpleasant and inconvenient we might be, deserve compassion.

  • My 23 yr old son shot himself and emailed us a suicide note saying he could not take the mental and physical pain he had been dealing with for 2+ years. We rushed to his apartment a mile away ( even though he had spent the night with us…he snuck away after his Dad went to work) All I can say is that Philip comleted our lives. It has been over a year and we are pased SHOCK and DENIAL and now we are living the HELL of this reality. My husband and I know we will never find JOY again in our lives.Of course I have thought about suicide as my ONLY option to escape this undeniable horrific pain. Philip took my heart when he shot his brains out. But all I could think about is…I cannot put MY MOM and my husband through the aftermath when you lose a loved one to suicide. It is unbearable to go on AND most days I do not go on. I do not get dressed but stay in bed and WEEP. I think Philip had to do what he thought he had to do. But I do not think he really knew how much and how MANY people love him so so much.
    So, please think about that before you take your life. Philip made a knee jerk reaction and I do not think he understood the pain he would leave behind. So many of US will live with the pain of his suicide FOREVER!!!

  • dear nancy,

    thank you for sharing this. what you describe is horrific and i extend my deepest condolences and my greatest sympathy to you. i wish you solace, and consolation, and peace in the midst of your terrible, terrible loss. a hug.

  • Dear Ama,
    Philip was in so much pain and he hated the world. This came on in his 20’s. He had a happy childhood. We took him to a psychiatrist who was a real asshole. Unfortunately, Philip was not 4 years old and we could not make him change. Through his desperation, he came home every day and we had a special bond and he knew that we loved him NO MATTER WHAT! But the last time Philip and I saw his Dr. together (week of his death)…the Dr. said he was doing the best he had ever done. He always said he was not a risk for suicide. He was too intelligent for that…Well, DOC, very smart people get enough of this pain and thye DO want to end it all. At least I know Philip is in Heaven and AT PEACE! The Dr. prescribed him 30 (2mg) zanax that day and he told me to call if Philip did anything out of the normal and I told him TO DO THE SAME! Philip came home from his apartment on Tuesday and said he swallowed the whole freaking bottle. I asked him “Are you trying to kill yourself?” And he looked fine and he said NO…I told him I STILL had to call his DR. He did not like that idea but he left with hugs and I love yous…He drove on the interstate and I called the Dr. and got his answering machine but told what Philip had done and Should I be alarmed. Philip calls and he was in a four car pile up car wreck and he had no car insurance.We were trying to make him independent and he would carry the insurance for a month and then drop it. I called the DR before picking up Philip and talked to the receptionist this time…I asked her if the Dr got my last message and she said he did. I told her to tell him about this car wreck and was zanax still in his system? He died Thursday Morning. After we called to tell the Dr’s office he shot himself the ofice called back and said the Dr felt terrible and he wanted to drop by…NO WAY!! But my husband (still in SHOCK) was reading all these Christian suicide grief books and he said that the Drs feel bad too. So we went in and you know what that jerk told us? He asked when Philip died and we said Thursday morning and he said that Philip came in on Wed (the day before) asking if he could talk to him for a minute. I asked about WHAT? And then he told me SUICIDE! I came unglued and told him off…I would have been outside my son’s door that morning IF I knew that…I asked him WHY did you not call me or the police? Then he said he wanted to know where he was buried so he could piss on his grave! He called me a bitch and we stormed out….
    We have contacted a lawyer because he put Philip on Cymbalta the last part of his life and the FDA ruled you should NOT give that to young adults that have suicidal thoughts! The quack is 81. Time for him to get his license revoked. The first thing Don and I wanted to do was to kill each other…No way did we think we could go on. My husband is going to take an early retirement since he STILL has break downs at work.We miss OUR Philip. So many friends considered him as their best friend and three girls thought they would end up marrying him. But I asked him if he got JOY out of SEX? And he said NO. He lied a lot so I cannot imagine a man saying that! But I KNOW he KNOWS we love him.
    I cannot even put on the fake face anymore…once my husband dies, I will kill myself. Mom will be gone and no one else cares.
    Peace be with you too,
    Philip’s MaMa (nancy)

  • this is a terrible story. i’m so sorry.

    i wish you all the best, nancy.

  • Omg……Nancy……

    Your son may have pulled the trigger, but apparently his doctor handed him the loaded gun. He is ultimately responsible for your son’s death. You and your husband entrusted your son to that man, and he pitifully abused that trust.

    Please don’t take your own life. I hope your husband lives a very long time.

    There were times we thought of suicide but never planned nor attempted it, because of the pain we knew we’d cause if we did.

    Ivan and The Integral

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